by Brett Samuels · July 8, 2018
Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that he’s urged President Trump not to discuss the possibility of a pardon for his longtime attorney, Michael Cohen, at least until ongoing investigations conclude.
Giuliani, who joined Trump’s legal team earlier this year, said on ABC’s “This Week” that no one on Trump’s team has reached out to Cohen or his attorneys about a pardon.
Cohen is under investigation in New York’s Southern District, reportedly for bank fraud and campaign finance law violations.
“I have advised the president, which he understands, no discussion of pardons. You can’t abridge your power to do it, that’s something you can decide down the road one way or the other,” Giuliani said.
Giuliani added that he doesn’t believe Trump should rule out the possibility of a pardon in the future.
“I mean that wouldn’t — wouldn’t be fair to — to the president, wouldn’t be fair to Cohen, wouldn’t be fair to future presidents,” he said. “But the fact is there’s no reason for a pardon right now or even to consider it, and quite honestly, it would just confuse everything.”
Cohen raised speculation last week that he might cooperate with federal investigators and “flip” on Trump after he told ABC News that his “first loyalty” belongs to his family and country, not the president.
Cohen also is undergoing a change in his legal team. He hired former Clinton White House aide Lanny Davis to represent him.
Giuliani on Sunday downplayed concerns that Cohen might flip on Trump, saying he and the president support Cohen’s cooperation with investigators.
“Michael Cohen should cooperate with the government. We have no reason to believe he did anything wrong,” Giuliani said.
The White House has said Trump hasn’t discussed pardons with other former associates implicated in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
The Hill · by Brett Samuels · July 8, 2018